at first i hated these two chairs. but now i find myself drawn to them. i even moved my speakers to my room, so i could use my futon as a couch.. and chillout there in comfort, with some good sound, but yet i find myself at ‘the table’ sitting on one (of the two) wooden chairs. these chairs are so uncomfortable it hurts, they cut off circulation to every part of my body… it is actually more comfortable and more relaxing to stand up. yet, i am now starting to develop a great appreciation for these chairs…